Is There a Digg Bury Brigade or Clever Deceptive Programming?

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If you're a regular listener to the Daily Search Cast you've heard Danny mention the troubles he's having with stories from SEL getting buried on Digg. He's also got repeated inquiries into Digg about the bury feature which seem to fall on deaf ears. I came across a story today on Web Pro News Digg Burying Stories from Unbanned Domains

nearly all the other sites from the list of the recently unbanned domains? Something like 95% of the articles from these domains are buried! That’s not a standard behavior!

So I started an experiment, and submitted my 3 reasons why alexa sucks story to digg. After a few minutes and a total of 7 visits my story had 3 diggs (my own and two others…a good start!) and was still not buried.

A couple of hours later, the story was buried, but I received no visits from digg… how can it be that my article was buried without being visited? I think this is the new algorithm at work, not the users who blindly buried my story!

Only one possible explanation came to my mind:

The new Digg algorithm automatically buries a story from an untrusted domain if the story does not receive a large number of diggs in the first few minutes

While I haven't done any testing myself "programatically" burying stories would be a clever approach to squelch a lot of critics, who question if Digg is truly as democratic as they profess to being. As long as Kevin Rose continues to give us a song and dance on the bury brigade instead of proving the same level of transparency they provide on voting, Digg is going to lose credibility, and never get traction in more mainstream areas.

Will Digg wise up and be more inclusive, or will it remain a twisted incarnation of the lost boys club house from Peter Pan filled with YMT's who won't grow up.

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Possibly but...

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A couple of hours later, the story was buried, but I received no visits from digg… how can it be that my article was buried without being visited? I think this is the new algorithm at work, not the users who blindly buried my story!

I don't think this is the best way to measure it though - many people digg or bury a story without ever visiting the actual page/site.

Most definatly

I am convinced there is some kind of automated burying or a system of flagging stories for manual review.

Maybe even a sandbox type penalty where untrusted domains can't get promoted.

i think there's a

i think there's a super-secret alien group of cyborg-cuttlets controlling things from the earth's core

j/k couldn't resist

*sets down the last espresso of the day*

Danny has another post about

Danny has another post about Diggers Burying articles from certain sites over at his Daggle blog. It's a good read as always, going into depth on the hassles he's had with some Diggers over the past few weeks.

Warning Danny says in the post that he's "working up a much longer, thoughtful article about this". Heck, this one weighs in at 1,665 words!

On the other hand

"or will it remain a twisted incarnation of the lost boys club house from Peter Pan filled with YMT's who won't grow up"

On the other hand they may be so retarded they're incapable of growing up.

something there

I concur with some of the other comments, you can be buried without having visitors, but there's definitely something to this whole meme about a Bury Squad/ movement what ever you want to call it. However if somebody cant pin down Google in court for anti-competitive behaviour theres a high hope in hell of anyone taking on Digg. My personal recommendation would be to bury others you don't like, and do it often. If enough people bury other people Digg will either eventually collapse inward on itself as all stories are buried, or they'll be forced to finally make the current process more transparent.

Give me a break

So many people trying to game the site with so much BS - the only ones complaining about it are the people trying to game it. Blocking people like you is not going to destroy digg, in fact they need to do it more to survive.

This is like shoplifters complaining that the anti-shoplifting devices on clothes are ruining the clothes...

A Break?

Steve,

Perhaps you're confused, not ALL of us who are complaining about Digg are GAMING it. I honestly could care less about my articles on Digg. I don't write for it, it's not my audience, and whether they like things I put on my blog or not - doesn't matter to me. What does matter to me - is the claim of democracy - when there really isn't, and that's my complaint about Digg and its "Thug Posses".

Danny Sullivan also doesn't "game" Digg either. So, just like a lot of us like to stereotype Diggrz as 15-18 year old zit-faced, geek boys sitting in their basements on the computer cuz they can't get girlfriends.....perhaps they like to stereotype all of us "SEOs" as "gamers".

Neither... for the most part is likely true.

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