Death threats against a blogger

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Kim over at cre8pc wrote an article about Kathy Sierra getting deaths threats, seriously has the world gone mad, Kathy posted on her blog pointing her finger, I guess at Rageboy his response is here, Maybe the next time you start a flame war,do you think you will think twice most probably not !

In the UK we have road rage people have die because of that, wonder how will be the first to be killed for blograge...

DaveN

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I understand it was

I understand it was disturbing and frightening for Kathy but insinuating that it was Rageboy was uncalled for. She has no idea who it is.

Also why is everyone going nuts over this ? Its certainly nothing new.

It happens all the time.

I read death threats almost every day on various political blogs I frequent. I don't know why this lady is all bent - unless she wanted to take a shot at Rageboy.

LinkBait then ?

Could this be the sickest linkbait exercise then ?? <- I regret that comment already.

DaveN

I dunno.. I won't fault her

I dunno.. I won't fault her from being scared. At the same time the theater performed by uninvolved parties thats passing as "supporting Kathy" is Retarded with a capitol R.

Re: Linkbait

I doubt it but in a couple of days that post has gotten over 1400 links and counting...

Can we merge the threads ?

Can we merge the threads ?

fuck that webprofessor

last time I even thought about merging to threads, everything went south..

do you think my linkbait comment was has or just the norm it today world, btw linkbait is just last years blog spam and the word on the street is, "wheels are in motion to penalise sites" that use link bait methods to game the search engines ... bring it on. can't say nay more on that lol

DaveN

1400 links?

uh oh, here come the lets trade death threats emails!

btw, this is already on TW. I posted this yesterday, but the other thread was already here.

you say that one more time Pickles

and I will KILL you or at least blog about you and the chicken thing ,, oops

DaveN

"do you think my linkbait

"do you think my linkbait comment was has or just the norm it today world,"

Sorry dave not following you on that.. what are you asking ?

Yeesh

Lots of opinions in those thousand plus comments. When I first read her post, I just thought she was overreacting. I've seen a lot worse on the Web. Hell, I've heard worse in a bar. All that whining about 'not wanting to be a part of the blogging culture', yada yada seems a bit over the top.

Yep, I'm a calloused prick but my reaction is 'shut up already'. People in the service overseas face a much more tangible risk every day and they aren't whining about not wanting to be part of the worldosphere.

last time I even thought

last time I even thought about merging to threads, everything went south..

Yes never cross the streams Dave... :)

I see it all as a bit of an over-reaction. Then again I've probably grown less sensitive living in Russia for 3yrs.

I wouldn't believe for a

I wouldn't believe for a minute it was linkbait, and I've commented elsewhere that some of the kinds of comments Kathy mentions are pretty par for the course in your average chat room or online game for instance.
Still doesn't make it acceptable though.

I'd agree that pointing the finger a bit, especially when the police are involved, doesn't seem the wisest move though.

btw linkbait is just last

btw linkbait is just last years blog spam and the word on the street is, "wheels are in motion to penalise sites" that use link bait methods to game the search engines ... bring it on. can't say nay more on that lol

Really? Seems like every time MC mentions bait it's in reference to how "white hat" it is, building remarkable content to naturally aquire editorial links, etc etc

When Google rule the world.

Quote:
Really?

One can only hope not or thats yet another perfectly legitimate marketing technique that Google will be telling us we can't use.

I think a lot of the recent linkbait frenzy has resulted in some pure crap (talked and created) but if you can't swap links, buy links, link to your site from forums or blogs, do something to attract links or rank without links then clearly the only way to get new customers to your site is to buy adsense and won't that be fun...

I think the fact that we are...

...even discussing the possibility that it is linkbait just shows how bad the linkbait problem has become.

Kathy = Linkbait?

I could see accusations for linkbait for some folks, but not someone of her caliber. For starters, she doesn't need it. Her readership is huge.

I've written on this and commented elsewhere. I think her experience will generate reactions all over the map, based on who you are, where you are and your personal life experiences and personality. When I first read her post, I was sad to see her name people because in my experience with the 'Net, it can be hard to know for absolutely sure if someone really committed the act or action. In all probability, whoever is harrassing her is using the cover of being other people and finding easy sites in which to play head games in, besides her own.

Her fear generated a hell of a reaction, and eventually made her do something just as negative, by publically calling out names of people who may not have, and likely did not, have anything to do with this.

I dislike the "This happened because she's a woman" blame game. Crap happened and still happens to me too, by men, but they don't make much of a dent anymore because most of my friends have always been men who treat me as a peer, and so many of them are incredible people to know. Even those guys find predator/sexist behavior upsetting.

At Cre8asiteforums, over the years, my moderators and recently one member have been stalked and harrassed. We don't talk about it, but this stuff goes on. The discussions generated by Kathy's situation may help in taking the blinders off that people still have about the Internet.

watch it Dave...

I know where you live, work, and even most of your travel plans. If I can ever get off this couch, you are dead you m'fer!!

;)

More Backlash

Some people just want her to shut up already.

Quick side note: Does anyone else find it disconcerting that all these strong, independent women turn into piles of jelly the second they face the smallest bit of adversity?

I wouldn't class sexual and

I wouldn't class sexual and physical threats as "the smallest bit of adversity". It is pretty disgusting, and I don't really see any justification for aiming any of that kind of crap at anyone. That anyone should think it's acceptable suggests some people are hanging around much tougher communities than I am.

Or

That anyone should think it's acceptable suggests some people are hanging around much tougher communities than I am.

Or that they are obsessed with their self-image as an "internet hard man".

Falling apart

DG writes:

Quick side note: Does anyone else find it disconcerting that all these strong, independent women turn into piles of jelly the second they face the smallest bit of adversity?

Good question. I've been thinking about that myself. She strikes me as not the falling apart kind. I wondered what I would do (I've been through this myself but haven't experienced the images she writes of). I think that would push me over the edge too, for a variety of reasons. Number one - my kids and their safety.

It's a thoughtful question because people handle things differently and have their reasons. She may be trying to protect things or people, for example, by removing herself from the picture.

Personally,

I think the backlash just reflects different types of people. Brian, you classify things differently than I do. I classify an anonymous threat on a blog as pretty weak stuff. I've had death threats over the phone and to be honest, they weren't all that difficult to deal with either. By changing her entire lifestyle, it's like she assumed the role of victim. There simply wasn't any defiance.

Kim, I didn't write the above quote, someone else did. I quoted it to show that people do indeed have different ways of dealing with and thinking about things. ; )

I'm not condoning the behavior of the person/people making the threats. They''re
cowards.

>>I wouldn't class sexual and physical threats as "the smallest bit of adversity"

Pshaw. Usenet was a death threat fest.

Usenet

Usenet was nuts. I remember it well, since my death and lawsuit threats were from that time, from there. I wonder if the new generation, just jumping in with blogs, are getting their first wakeup call? Interesting suggestion about Kathy not choosing defiance. That's a more male reaction, maybe? I love the questioning. I'm picturing myself as being defiant, had it been me this happened to. But I would be rude and crude right back and likely just get into more trouble (folks aren't used to seeing "bad kimmy") :)

Aggression

Males are much more inclined to look at defiance/aggression as a first plan of action. ; ) I'm sure that she did what most people consider sensible. Stayed home, contacted authorities, etc. Law enforcement might not have recommended blogging about it but that is still tame compared to what my reaction would be.

'C'mon over ya freak', while I unlocked the gun safe...

Venus & Mars

DG I'm totally with you but when my normally tough (with me lol) wife was threatened a few years ago she also fell to pieces.

Fantasy shattered. It's

Fantasy shattered.

It's online community. When it is thought to be fantasy land, such reality checks can come down pretty hard. Best to keep it in perspective... the people behind the keyboards are the same jerks you see on the train, bus, intersection, Starbucks line, unemployment office, and court house. Who else could they be?

I can see why people get scared

we're living in an age where people are getting stabbed at parties instead of punched, shot for daring to ask gangs of kids not to throw stones at cars and 14 year old girls are (allegedly) killing their sister over a petty row, and we all know how easy it is to find someone's address online. Is it really a surprise that people get scared, I sure as hell would be.

I think its the instant news

I think its the instant news from anywhere in the world that promotes fear like that. Sure all the things Gurtie says happen bit we never heard about it before.. and we didn't hear about it over and over and over until the next scary story.

Knee-jerks

Sierra's meltdown prompted Tim O'Reilly to abandon all critical thought and join in the call for a Blogging Code of Conduct.

Yep. That will solve the problem Some non-binding, self-regulatory piece of feel good. Maybe we can get the pedophiles to adopt some Internet code of conduct so our children will be safer...

It's shit like this that makes me want to cuss. Stupid, whiney, do-nothing do-gooders piss me off.

I ran across the blogging code of conduct at WMW My thoughts remain the same.

next thing you know

someone will try and come up with an internet code of conduct.. oh, wait..

dumbasses. the web is what it is because it doesn't have crap like that.

hello wussies, just in case you didn't know, there's a little button on your computer that can solve all your problems in one click -- off.

You know .. all your levity is just a ...

...cowardly escape from reality IMHO.

Personally I have had someone pull a gun on me - and in such a situation your reaction needs to be............?

Also I've had a situation where my wife was pinned up against a wall by some guy and she never even contemplated giving ground.

Yes shit happens - and we need to protect those who need protection.

......???

shit does happen...

everywhere, all the time. the web is no different (aside from being safer)...try taking care of yourself from day one and you should have little to be concerned about...just like reality.

Statements from Kathy & Chris

On rageboy's site:

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It's still April Fools Day as I write this, but this page is not a joke. Kathy Sierra and I (Chris Locke) agreed to publish these statements in advance of the story which will appear tomorrow (Monday 2 April 2007) on CNN, sometime between 6 and 9am on "CNN American Morning." As used in the somewhat Victorian title slug, above, "coordinated" is meant to signal our joint effort to get this stuff online, not that we co-wrote the material you see here, or had any hand in prompting or editing each other's words.

Coordinated Statements on the Recent Events

Nice one.

Nice one.

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