Leaked Bill Gates E-mail on getting Windows NOT to work with Linux


Enjoy the leaked E-mail regarding Bill Gates making Windows not work with Linux

"From: Bill Gates
Sent: Sunday, January 24, 1999 8:41 AM
Jeff Westorinon; Ben Fathi
TO: Carl Stork (Exchange); Nathan Myhrvofd; Eric Rudder
Subject: ACPI extensions

One thing I find myself wondering about is whether we shouldn’t try and make the "ACPI" extensions somehow Windows
specific. If seems unfortunate if we do this work and get our partners to do the work and the result is that Linux works great without
having to do the work. Maybe there is no way Io avoid this problem but it does bother me.
Maybe we could define the APIs so that they work well with NT and not the others even if they are open.
Or maybe we could patent something related to this.



The way I read that

The way I read that (and it's from 1999) is that he was concerned that they'd do a lot of development work that would benefit Linux without cost or effort to Linux. I'm not sure that's a bad business decision, but perhaps there's more to it than that.

More accurately, this is was

More accurately, this is was trying to get "motherboard BIOSes* to not working Linux.

BG was pissed off that MS and the hardware vendors are putting a lot of effort into creating a stable, workable API so that the OS and put the hardware into hibernate without completely stuffing it up.

This is no mean feat.

You can understand how annoyed he is that he has to publish the API for it so Linux can just implement it and be done with it.

However, I have to say that his comment "Maybe we could define the APIs so that they work well with NT and not the others" betrays a surprising lack of understanding of the issue from Bill.

Makes Sense...

Coming from Microsoft, the comments make sense. I think this is more a story because we get to see a message straight from Bill, unintended to be public. I'm not sure it's any big deal -- especially being eight years after the fact.


I think a lot of people forget how good ol Bill got his start in the business.

He conned himself into owning DOS, he stole Windows from Apple and he constantly tries to DESTROY his competition and critics...

He may look like a nerd, but he is one mean and nasty SOB.

Maybe thats why he gave most of his money to charity... Guilt for all the bad shit he has done to people.

Since when is business bad?

Makes sense to me - the title of the post seems a little misleading, but then again most people in this day and age feel like everything should be given away for free...

Before Bill... Most

Before Bill... Most everything (as far as software) was Free...

Bill was the one that that insisted that people had to pay him for the software he stole...

so tell me,

where do you think we would be if Bill had stayed in school and microsoft was only an Australian pillow?

Before Bill... Most everything (as far as software) was Free...

Soory lots0 thats just Wrong

I was working in the industry pre IBM in tech software for apples and Mac's and visicalc etc was definatly not free.

Nor was RT11, VMS, PR1MOS and the software to run on them i recall we paid hundreds for a set of fortran algorithems from NAG for our PDP's and Primes.

I recall having to wait untill 7 or 8 o clock for Ms suport to open (this is pre the move to washington BTW) so i could ask about complex USCD pascal problem :-) we wher having on our apple priduct.

just Wrong

No one gives a shit about facts. We're looking at a document that was written in 99, became evidence in 2002 but they are calling it 'newly' leaked at Digg and 'leaked' here.

You could write that Gates Is Responsible For All Terrorism and the Diggers would be off and running with the 'story'. Shame I have to read the same type of shit here.

Just in!

DG writes that "Gates is Responsible For All Terrorism".


I looked to see if The Founder was pulling a feed from The View. ; ) Will we have to discuss whether the moon landing really happened?

What's the problem with wanting to crush the competition?

His motivations here are quite obvious -- cripple any competition by any technical means possible. Can anybody give me a clear idea why anybody else in his shoes would not share the same aim?

This just shows Bill Gates' strategic acumen. It's pretty fundamental -- throw obstacles into your competitors' ways, and don't work for them!


I didn't see Founder say anything other than enjoy the "leaked" document. I would think we could have a better discussion of it than the diggers...


The email is from 1999. The document is dated 2002. There is no story behind it, just a PDF. Was the email leaked? Was it subpoenaed? Once it was evidence did was it in the public domain and therefore not a leak? Is it even authentic?

lots o' mistakes

Before Bill... Most everything (as far as software) was Free...

I remember unpacking an original IBM PC and setting it up next door to the PDP 11 room. It did nothing. A:> prompt on amber monitor. It cost $5k with no software. I set it up so it would be ready for the accountant, who was providing the spreadsheet software (for another hefty fee).

At that time we made PDP11 software that sold for $20k, plus service fees and maintenace. And we were small potatoes.


Well, first of all I did say "Most everything" was was free, I did not say everything was.

Pre Bill Gates - MOST software was freely traded among geeks. I never paid for any software until I purchased MS DOS 1.1.

@ mjwalshe "I was working in the industry pre IBM..."
There was no computer industry pre IBM.

When you are talking about Macs and MS Service center you are talking about waaaay after Bill took over... I was talking about before Bill came into the picture, before Microsoft... Yes there was life before Microsoft, just not before IBM.

@ JohnAndrews When I was in college (in the mid 70's) I worked part time for a national trucking company. The trucking company spent millions on a main frame IBM 360 series... But did not have a single person that knew how to run it. The only software that came with it was its own OS that was proprietary(and it sucked big time). All the software except the OS was all custom back then, you had to write all your own or trade for it with another geek. That was my first computer job and where I first learned about card readers and COBOL.

Back in those days, you did not buy software, you hired someone that would get the computer to do what you wanted it too.

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I have gotten five email announcements today for this thread ... for lots0's one comment.

[Added] That comment has now moved below this one. Odd.

And now that I've edited it, it moved below all of them. Hm.

I'm back because I got yet

I'm back because I got yet another email notification.

And this is getting odd. This is the second time lately that I posted after lots0 and then my comment appeared *above* his.

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