New Backlink & PR Tool Fed to the Wolves

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Story Text:

Ok, so here's something for the dicerning SEO tool experts at Threadwatch: A Backlink & PR Tool that claims to have information you just can't get from Google itself...

Rip it up, tell us what you think...

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Hehe...

...that was quick ;-]

Maybe it's smart and draws backlinks from Yahoo and MSN....

what about showing anchor

what about showing anchor text?

Yahoo! and MSN know nothing about Google's database

Whereas there is marginal value in a human's looking at Yahoo! and MSN (to ascertain whether there are any links for Google to index), they tell you absolutely nothing about what Google has actually indexed. So, if this tool uses their indexes, the reports are meaningless.

In which case, we should spread the word so that all the PR lovers can use it.

Nothing to do with Yahoo

I hope the link with Yahoo in the url wasn't misleading. All this tool is doing is displaying Info straight from Google.

here's another example

http://www.google.com/search?client=navclient-auto&ch=6-1253433821&q=www.threadwatch.org

give a csv dump of the data

give a csv dump of the data including anchor text and we'll talk....

how do you get that XML format?

XML is much easier to work with than the SOAP interface (API), so is the method for doing this in the open or what?

>> CSV

You can make that from any web page (Tabular HTML or XML), just pull it through Excel and save as CSV.

>>You can make that from any

>>You can make that from any web page

sure you can but I don't want to have to be pulling page after page manually. The current data display format of x number of links per page doesn't help me much. I'd have to get a spider just to get all the results for me ;)

You just need a checksum

All you need is a checksum. Each site has a unique checksum. Thats the ch parameter in: http:// www. google.com/search?client=navclient-auto&ch=6-1253433821&q=www.threadwatch.org. You need the checksum (ch) and the url (q). Anyone can do it. I used a php checksum calculator, but there are other ways to get a checksum, like using a PR toolbar. I got the idea to make this tool from another tool that claims to give you future pagerank. (iwebtool dot com). I saw links to it in several forums about 2 weeks ago. People just made fun of it because there probably is no real way to predict future pagerank, but no one really took time to see where the guy was getting the data from. Straight from Google. I was already working on a similar application for another website (nothing to do with PR), so I decided to make this tool.

what do these lists show, exactly?

>> manually
- no need to, just push a button in your spreadsheet. You'll have to make one first but that's not a big issue ;)

Anyway, before I make one for you just to prove my point, what exactly do these lists show? I tried to do a few searches and compared with the "link:www.domain.com" search in Google. Try eg. "www.bbc.co.uk" on both of them. Here, the seologs tool show far less links than the G search.

There is a difference both in the number of links and in which links are displayed, but I just can't figure out what this tool shows. I'm confused, as I can't really say what goes on here. Anyone care to / able to explain?

I had a similar experience

I had a similar experience

Oh my god

That checksum thing's awesome! i almost can't wait to go to work on Monday! I have a whole lotta libraries to rewrite...

I cheched it out and found

I cheched it out and found some errors:

1. It found a link from threadwatch actually that was a link to a site of min with PR5, but it was not a link, just like this: www.eurofind.biz

2. Found a PR5 link from a directory of mine at tool says it was PR5, but that cant be true. It is a PR3 link and I cant belive that page will have a future PR of 5.

Kim

That link was ment to be

That link was ment to be unanchored.

It wasnt Threadwatch, but: http://www.seroundtable.com/archives/002067.html

checksum

>>All you need is a checksum

What kind of checksum is that? CRC32? Also, what is the leading "6-" in the sum?

Tom

Link popularity check

I like this tool alot more than the one from seologs, you can choose from which search engine and sort the results by url, pagerank or ip. Nice resource: http://www.linkvendor.com/seo-tools/domain-popularity.html

I'd still like to know...

I'd still like to know what the seologs tool does exactly. Or, what is the exact nature of that information (as it's not the same as the SERP's). The "backlink-links" that I examined did hold a link to the site in question, so it does not appear as more misleading than the ordinary link search.

I think shows something that might be significant, I'm just not sure about the exact difference between this and the ordinary SERP's. So what can we learn from it? (Except of course the that the output from the "link" commands can be -- and likely is -- manipulated at will by the SE's)

Is it really the case that nobody has any ideas or even theories?

Simplified Version

I added a simplified version of the tool. Just go to the normal version, and click on the "simplified version" link.

>>I'd still like to know what the seologs tool does exactly

When you find out, Id like to know too. For now, Im just thinking of it as "extra information from Google"

Sounds like a posetive

Sounds like a posetive tradeoff that :P

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