Bloggers Aren't Your 15 Minutes of Fame Over Yet?

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Ok so we've got the Top 100, the A-List Bloggers, and the utterly riddiculous blogebrities. The Lilith Fair style love-fest dedicated to female bloggers known as Blogher just finished. Meanwhile Dave Sifry talks about how the number of bloggers is doubling every five months, and Blog Day 2005 is now less than a month away.

I've pretty much had all I can take of this blogosphere nonsense, and wish someone would just put it out of it's misery, and pull the plug out of the wall already.



What exactly would that entail? Ho do you "pull the plug" on bloggers? Personally, I think the trend is good for all of us in the web industry. The more folks get comfortable online and join the online culture, the more those of us with profit-producing sites are likely to be carried on the Internet wave.


First point, you own a blog Graywolf, your posting on a blog here at Threadwatch...hmmm.. what can I say, although I do sympathise somewhat with your obvious notion that the obsession with the A List and like by some is flawed, but at the end of the day one mans label is another mans joke. Just ignore it and enjoy reading and writing here at Threadwatch at let the gossiping classes (including to some extent, myself) gossip away. It does no harm, and no one forces you to read it. As randfish states, the number of people getting into blogs means more people will read what we write, and that's good for all of us, because only a small number will ever seek to profit from it. Perhaps your key is to get more bloggers reading what your writing, and in this regard I've done my little bit tonight. Check those evil Technorati stats (if and when they get updated, you never know with Technorati) and you'll see what it is :-)

Frankly, I hear the same

Frankly, I hear the same thing about self-publishing and ebook publishing - 'too many ebooks/POD books we will never sort through the noise' - just substitute blog for ebook. But all that noise creates an opportunity for reviewers that care to filter.

Remember back in the days when spawning popups, email spam and viruses, spy/adware and the dotcom bust actually had joe-average turning off the computer and watching TV again? randfish is right anything that gets the public interested, invested and returning to the web is great by me. Moreover, a lot of those bloggers will want better hosting, templates, script installation, continued drupal development, listings and rankings in directories and SE's. It's all money for us.

your posting on a blog here

your posting on a blog here at Threadwatch.

I put forth (again?) that Threadwatch is not a blog, but a forum laid out in what has become the 'blogosphere' style.

'Tis a Flog or a Borum?

I put forth (again?) that Threadwatch is not a blog, but a forum laid out in what has become the 'blogosphere' style.

I guess that would make TW a flog? ;)

Being old enough to remember the days when you had to get up off the couch and walk across the room to change to one of the three available channels on your network-only TV, the blogging "phenomenon" reminds me most of the advent of the remote control and the cable/satellite TV explosion of the last part of the 20th century. Now we have hundreds of TV channels. Some of the programming is good, some is trash, some is good but of limited interest, some, well, who gives a f*ck about it, just as it is in the blogosphere.

The blogs themselves are like the remote - why build a real website anymore when you can just sit on your ass, type stuff into a webform, and hit "Publish"? TV remotes haven't gone anywhere; I seriously doubt blogs will either - not because of their value as much as because it's plain easier for our flabby grey matter to just type something into a form and push a button than to write code.


end of code

thank goodness it's not about the code anymore.

the pickings were much thinner when it was only those who mastered the web language who could post their thoughts.

granted the average IQ was higher but do you really want to spend the rest of your life listening only to the high school science club talk about their narrow obsessions and incredibly dull social lives and their tedious musical interests.

lots of drivel but a few jewels exist

Pulling the plug on most would not leave me wanting more but I do find myself returning to several blogs every day because I'm drawn to their 'voice'. Those select blogs have become the books that I used to read.

I will respectfully (hehe..)

I will respectfully (hehe..) suggest that you guys are actually misinterpreting GW's point. But also, that he didn't articulate it very well - correct me if im wrong...

It's not blogs, it's the grotesques masturbational obsession with them that's the point - these guys are so busy copulating amongst themselves that it's becoming a little distasteful for the dicerning surfer.

Frankly, im bored shitless with the A-List - what a bunch of wankers - all of them - every single one, absolute arseholes.

So busy grooming eachother, and playing tag with the latest stupid buzzword (that's probably 5yrs old but given a new name "podcasting"..) that they really do think they just invented the fucking internet. Get a life, what good are these opinions if they're not educated, balanced, informed?

No good at all, they're just opinions by people that don't know fuck about fuck.

Tossers, the lot of 'em.

grotesques masturbational

grotesques masturbational obsession with them

Okay I can agree with that part. It's like reporters reporting on other reporters.

Frankly, I will have to agree with Brad

Frankly, I will have to agree with Brad that it is not only blogs, e-books, and podcasts. The web is experiencing what newspapers, magazines, and the academy is experiencing for decades. The more you publish the less your words mean something.

It is true that more publishers will demand more services. However, it is important to remember that the bubble is feeding itself and when the prices will go up many of these bloggers will leave.

Nonetheless, I must agree that it is about time that we will stop talking about bloging as the main subject and start listening to WHAT is said instead of HOW it is said. Who cares if it is a blog, a forum, a social network, or a newspaper?

I'll catch hell for this, but okay.....

I've often felt the same way, graywolf, about the SEO industry. We've got WMW, SEW Forums, SE Roundtable, HRankings, Cre8, IHelpYou, TWatch, not to mention everyone under the sun doing their own blogs. Then there's all the news sites (SEGuide, Pandia, SEW, SEL, ISEDB, WPW, etc.) feeding material to, and taking material from, the forums and blogs. Oh, and everyone's doing conferences or shows or other get-togethers now, too.

It's not much different to me, though I suppose we all compete with each other for clients so there's not as much group backscratching ... but it's still there. Just read some of the recent celebrity interviews going around our forums and blogs these days, or go to SES. :-)

I'll close with this in an attempt to lessen the hell coming my way: I enjoy and learn from most of these SEO forums, blogs, news sites, etc. But I can sure see how an outsider would look in on us and say the exact same thing graywolf said at the start about the blogging elite. Haven't you ever wondered when some SEO's 15 minutes will end?

grotesques masturbational obsession

Man Nick you got a way with words. I don't have a problem with 'blogs' per say, and as a publishing format I think they are great and here to stay.

What turns me off is the 'drams' the 'high school cliques' and 'office politics' of it all. We could do without all the blogging prima donnas and divas who really and truly believe that they are as important as the johnny-come-lately media pundits say they are.

yes, pleeker it has already happened and will repeaterepeatrepea

When I discovered TW it because WMW had yet again demonstrated it's cliquishness and self-serving self-awareness - yuch. When just-about-everybody-on-wmw showed up on TW I cringed. Luckily Nick isn't afraid to piss off those who deserve it. That seems to keep some of the self-serving "talking heads" quiet :-)

I liken blog world to a catch basin. Whirling current forming circles here and there, especially when it rains, but he whilring dervishes don't last as they dissolve and merge and move on, most eventually flowing right down the sewer.

A new blog is born every second

Wishful thinking if you thought blogging was on the decline

BBC reports that a new blog thunders into life every second

In its latest State of the Blogosphere report, it said the number of blogs it was tracking now stood at more than 14.2m blogs, up from 7.8m in March.

It suggests, on average, the number of blogs is doubling every five months.

14.2m people engaged in grotesque masturbation as we speak?


I read somewhere the other day that 55% of blogs are 'active' and 23%(?) had a post at least once a week. So presumably one is dying every 1.05 seconds and *only* 3.5m are getting posted to regularily

I would also guess the 80/20 rule applies to blog ownership :)

Still huge figures though.

>>new blog thunders into

>>new blog thunders into life every second

yeah, but how many of those are created by TW members bots?

I read somewhere the other

I read somewhere the other day that 55% of blogs are 'active' and 23%(?) had a post at least once a week. So presumably one is dying every 1.05 seconds and *only* 3.5m are getting posted to regularily

The same thing applied (applies) to old fashion free hosted websites - er, minus the group-grope.

how many of those are created by TW members bots?

TW members have a lot to answer for :-)

What only one a second?

TW Member Bots

At least the bots update regularly and on schedule not like those pesky humans, and they scale much better too.

I don't think blogs are

I don't think blogs are going anywhere any time soon. I actually prefer many of the 'nobody', less hyped blogs myself. They're not branding machines, they're not part of a buddy promotional blog ring (lmao), and many are providing solid info (more signal - less noise). Of course I find great value in some of the bigger blogs too (TW, seobook, seoroundtable, etc.). But there's a substantial difference between these big boys and the 'wannabes' - they actually produce the goods.

What appeals to me as a blogger is the content control. I own it. I control it. I don't have that benefit when posting on forums. And I suspect that's why so many are drawn to blogging. I find much more value nowadays stalking blogs rather than forums - that's where the 'real' discussions seem to be happening now. Someone ^up there mentioned being drawn to the voice/personality. I totally agree with that. For every 100 crappy blogs, we're also getting some real gems that we otherwise would never have heard.

There's been a big shift and we're only seeing the start of it IMO. And I think it's a good thing ;o)

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