Whiney Submitters & Dmoz Editor Mobs

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My concerns
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This just came in via cre8 now removed

He's posted the entire resource zone thread at cre8 so they'll probably have to nuke it, but if you're around this saturday morning the actual threadlink above is amazing.... but im sure the dmoz boys'll nuke that too if they have any sense.

I've never been to resource zone, are the editors always like that when someone makes a complaint? - Sheesh, check out hutcheson, if this were face to face he'd have knuckle dusters on and be wearing a ski mask...

Sorry, we don't offer what you want, but we won't be offended if you seek your needs elsewhere. There are millions of sites that offer instant website promotion services: we don't feel there is a need for yet another one, and so we aren't yet another one. (as you may have noticed.)

So a site that offered what you want wouldn't be a replacement for the ODP. It would be something else, and ... you're welcome to start it right now. We'll send all the unhappy webmasters to you tomorrow; we'll even license all our work to you for free.

You may, if you wish, hire all our editors who are on perpetual slowdown strike and only work to union rules.

You may set up your system so that one obnoxious editor can keep a site from getting listed. We don't have such a thing, and we don't think it would be useful in our endeavor: but you are free to set up your site along whatever lines you wish.

The OP's clearly a bit whiney about not being listed, even a pain in the arse sure, but...

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ODP fan :)

I think the tone of the original complaint justified the tongue in cheek replies he got, they guy clearly doesn’t understand how the ODP works so made up some fantasy.

Now he’s on a mission to try and discredit dmoz, so his 1st post on cr8 is a huge unedited mess scraped from dmoz, makes you wonder what his dmoz submission was like.

Original thread http://resource-zone.com/forum/showthread.php?t=27230

It's a dmoz whine like any other...

...so nothing shocking about that. It's just that the corruption bickering is fascinating. Each one of them focusing on his/her own "truth". I guess they're all right in a way, they just don't see it. The system might be the best available for this purpose, and there might be rotten apples. I can't help but notice EVERYONE seems to generalise ALL the time and I'd NEVER do that (?) ;)

Big Fan

Im a big fan of a good dmoz forum rumble :)

There are always three distinct groups in the fray:

  • Whiney Submitters
  • Bully Boy Editors
  • The "constructive criticism crew"

The last group generally consisting of webmasters who have valid points and arent whining and editors that answer those valid points without being wankers about it. - they kind of get in the way of all the fun though hehe...

I dont unfortnately have much to offer in the way of a solution to dmoz problems but this thread says dmoz should run adsense among other things and kctipton is in there responding. 'tis a good read...

Resource Zone

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I've never been to resource zone, are the editors always like that when someone makes a complaint? - Sheesh, check out hutcheson, if this were face to face he'd have knuckle dusters on and be wearing a ski mask...

And if I were you I would not bother going to Resource Zone again. That thread is par for the course, with a Lord of the Flies culture prevailing, as a braying crowd of wantabe more senior editors vie to attract the attention of metas.

On some of the other forums Hutcheson is quite civil and constructive, but set them loose together and it becomes a sort of gangbang of those daft enough to ask for information.

I have often wondered if those taking part in the gratuitous duffing up of the seekers after information realise how offensive/laughable they come across to those in the outside world.

I did my best to keep that SEW thread on track on putting AdSense into DMOZ, its one of the few ways forward for them IMO.

I like all types of rumble...

...except in my stomach.

I presume dmoz eds know they're important in a way, and I'm 100% sure a lot of them became an editor to have influence on their "own" category (even though the admission procedure tries to counter that - no doubt). In fact they became so important that they'd get an instant BJ from most webmasters in competitive markets.

Heck, I could be a zealot right now, and I would if I'd get the same power. And why - do you think - did I become a member of Zeal? Right, to get my own site listed. I could take that category and kill all the submissions above mine if I wanted to. But to what end? I won't bother.

I have to say that if I were a dmoz ed I would react in a similar way to a whine like that. I bet they get a lot of that, and it's bound to render a person sarcastic. He - I even whip out the sarcasm now and again for no apparent reason...

decorum

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On some of the other forums Hutcheson is quite civil and constructive

I've always found him to be polite, pleasent and generally a useful guy to have around on a forum. We've spoken a couple of times if memory serves and i like him.

That's why i found it so.... weird!

Mob mentality is a facinating thing to observe is it not? I've been a part of it many times as im sure others here have, it's just human nature. But someone over there could do with taking a step back and looking at the board from a distance if that's the norm as you say...

self interest

>> and I'm 100% sure a lot of them became an editor to have influence on their "own" category

I did. You'll have to take my word for it though when i tell you that i never abused that role other than (if you could count this) to alter the anchor text a competitor wanted. - laden with KW's and not matching his title on the site.

Stricty speaking it was a good edit but as he was a competitor it felt like i was being a meanie heh...

I resigned recently. No bad reasons, just didnt have the time to commit to it anymore. I always rather enjoyed it, and always took a very wide swerve around the politics, i dont have time for that ugly mess either...

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