Gates Confirms Web Based "Office Live" & "Windows Live"


Not only has Big Billy G confirmed that Office will take to the web, but also "Windows Live", which "is a set of Internet-based personal services, such as e-mail, blogging and instant messaging". Furthermore, Gates clarified details in the ZDNet article linked above and said "It will be primarily supported by advertising and be separate from the operating system itself. Office Live will come in both ad-based and subscription versions that augment the popular desktop productivity suite".

Bring it on i say, MS may be a bit slow to react these days, but i'd be willing to bet big billy's still got the balls to pull off something like this well, and flatten a whole bunch of ajaxtastic startups in the process...

thanks Dan!

UPDATE: Here's the Beta Site


My bet

The way they are going this might start out "AJAX"-like but it certainly won't end up that way.

>>Firefox support is coming

>>Firefox support is coming soon. Please be patient :-)

Wankers, why the fuck can't they just get that right from the start? They pulled that shit with


Because they don't really want people to use firefox? Upgrade to IE7 on Windows ;OP

Interesting times

This move would surely hook a lot of users into MSN search - like a LOT??

Where is office? This is

Where is office? This is just a lame attempt to prevent others from entering the office online space and thereby squashing the hope of google to get into office on web, if any.

Hotmail Beta

My Hotmail beta, of which previous to today was called 'mail', now has Windows Live logos instead.

So far, it seems to have

So far, it seems to have Firefox support. I've not been blocked from doing anything on the page - add/delete content, Drag 'n Drop, viewing, etc...

I have to say this looks pretty slick at first glance. I may actually use this...

It's not lame, it's R&D

It's not a lame attempt at anything, IMHO. On the contrary, it's applied R&D, and it's a lot of bang for the buck.

Inside MS these days you have these groups of web savvy people fiddling around with stuff, and applying their knowledge of the web to Microsoft products. Afaik, it is even actively encouraged by management. Just like the famous Google 20%, only with a lot more people and a lot more funding in case anything turns out to be worth it.

So, what you get is a whole lot of lab cases, or "sandboxes" if you prefer that term: Live test cases, released to the public in the traditional web way; by word of mouth. Some will float some will not, but you don't throw a lot of dev money into it and not a lot of marketing dollars either. You develop, launch, learn, and refine.

Also, with stuff like channel9 and widgets developers outside MS are encouraged to participate. So, is that new? Not really. It's the same business model (and yes it is one) that was used on windows initially: Windows became a superior OS by allowing other people to build apps on top of it - increasingly competitive, complicated and userfriendly apps.

Added: And yes, as pointed out by IncrediBILL here, MS consistently handpicked the high volume markets and launched their own versions of products for these.

Contrary to popular belief Windows and MS products in general have never been about walled gardens. Source code closed and often bloated, yes, but at the core everything is extendable. It's built to build stuff on top of (as spyware and virus writers will acknowledge first).

Product extensions have been welcomed for what seems like forever, and API's have been provided before that term was even used in the context of web products.

Added: Again, IncrediBILL (link above) is right in saying that external developers were never allowed full access to the socalled "hooks" that made MS products work better than competing ones.

So, that's the only true Microsoft product: A platform, or in more common words; a market place. If there's a market place and you get people there, trade will follow.

(And, again, that does not stop you from acquiring the biggest booths for yourself)


...on a related note, the links next to the green search button here are, well, interesting...

Link points to on-topic article:

If OfficeLive proves successful, Microsoft could enjoy some promising prospects for contextual advertising within free applications. What refinancing company wouldn't want the attention of someone working on a mortgage amortization schedule in an Excel spreadsheet? What travel company wouldn't want a shot at someone pecking out vacation plans for next summer? Some will crow about invasions of privacy, but by definition, consumers need to give something up to enjoy subsidized freebies.


The amount of people who have sent me emails using gmail that I *know* were covered by NDA, the amount of people who have signed up to NDA-only email discussions .. people do not care that their data is being read if they get something free. And these are technical people, are your neighbours or parents going to care?

Now works with Firefox

Now works with Firefox

Most consumers

Most consumers are either ignorant of the lack of privacy online or have conceded that it is a battle that cant be won, so freebies are the upside of a lost cause.

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