Economics of Button Pushing Black Hats

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If you've ever wondered why black hat spammers do what they do, and why they don't care when websites get banned, CountZero sums it all up in one nice little paragraph, Why spam works

Let’s say an average spam site that scrapes content will last only three months. When I can create 500 sites a day I don’t care if they are banned. They only cost me a couple hours to make, plus $500 to $1500 for the domains. Hosting 500 sites on a $200 per month server for three months is gonna cost $600 or $1.2 per site. That means that if they only make 10 cents each for only 30 of the 90 days, I make a profit if I bought cheap domains.

hat tip to Black Hat SEO Blog

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Why stealing content works

That CountZero post is almost an exact copy of Earl Gray's interview and as far as I know he never asked for a permission to use it.

almost an exact copy of Earl

almost an exact copy of Earl Gray's interview

here is a link to the Earl Gray interview

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Do you have a link to the Earl Gray interview?

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two seconds late, it's my life story...

What a shocker!

That a scraper would scrape an interview, isn't that what scrapers do?

Seems to me that was the whole point of the story!

That...

...and the lesson that an article with quality graphics added is always preferred over the plain text original ;-]

Funny thing

Both sides of the argument are correct IMO.

Don't agree about the graphics though...

IrishWonder is just trolling around

The last time I read that interview was when I blogged about it. Check on my blog and that should be around June. If there's any sentence that's "an exact copy" of something on the interview, please point it out.

Banning me on Syndk8 wasn't fun either but no hard feelings for that, I solved any misunderstanding that happened with Earl himself.

Banning on Syndk8

For those wondering - CountZ stole a bunch of other content off Syndk8 and was banned exactly for that. If you make a member-only forum you actually don't expect people to just copy that content and have it flying around.

please keep the back and

please keep the back and forth hate stuff to a minimum or else the thread gets nuked

I think both of you are cool w me and any conflicts can probably be solved off site

Good thing is that...

...most proper blackhats have no real "ethical" problems with getting scraped themselves. Only practical problems. From what I observed, they don't like to whine and/or bicker either. In fact, blackhats are prolly a bit boring that way :)

I'm sorry Aaron

but I wanted to at least make clear that I haven't "stolen a bunch of content" from Syndk8.

most proper blackhats have no real "ethical" problems with getting scraped themselves

I know of a bunch of sites scraping my feeds and I'm pretty cool about that. I have also stopped scraping myself to build sites quite some time ago.

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I have also stopped scraping myself to build sites quite some time ago.

I have also stopped scraping

I have also stopped scraping myself to build sites quite some time ago.

That should have been without "myself". Sounds weird that way...

I became a member of Syndk8

I became a member of Syndk8 forums after readig that thinking everybody there was a bathrobe millionaire but the conversations are like" I am making $15 a day off adsense". Totally disappointed.

Just like every forum

Newbies flow to any forum where they think someone will *show* them how to make $$$.

Syndk8

I just joined their forums and yes they have newbs there and lots of people not making much money just like any other forum. Despite that I have found some information on there that is useful to me.

We have done bh stuff and wh

We have done bh stuff and wh stuff. TBO the WH has always done far far better. Although this is really going off at a tangent. But like you say webprofessor there is some interesting ideas that you can apply to whatever darkside project you may be doing. The main stuff people seem to be interested in there is auto gen content for adsense. Pfft... I guess if you have a real factory approach you can do OK. BTW I have not clicked an ad on this site for ages ( sorry Arron :)

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