SEO 4 SALE

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The old SEOs need to watch out as the next generation is advertising for work on craigslist to dispense their kool-aid stand brand of SEO.

Best yet, if he runs into trouble his Dad, a top Internet entrepreneur, editor and ad sales guru will help him.

Just pray he finishes your job before getting grounded and losing his computer privileges.

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What a work ethic!

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I'll plug away hour after hour submitting YOUR site and URL into 206 search engines and directories – submission software and most SEO's won't do this

Damn right we won't do this.

Somewhere an Indian SEO Firm

Somewhere an Indian SEO Firm is having a meeting to prepare a competitive response.

i actually found that to be

i actually found that to be kind of interesting, actually, because i thought the ad might be a scam -- like it's actually some 40 year old guy who's not going to submit your site to any directory, just take your money and run. how many clients are really going to pick a big fight or try for legal action against a person they think is 14 years old?

something about that ad seems off, IMO.

I dunno about you

but I can submit to 300 in less than 3 hours

Where's the on?

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something about that ad seems off, IMO.

Something?

I can submit to 300 in less than 3 hours

He said he'll spend "hour after hour", that is only 2 hours...

yeah I am just thinking

yeah I am just thinking about the $250. I can do it at my hourly rates for that.

His Dad taught him that

"just ONE client..." yeah, exclusivity. And I have to order by midnight tonight, right?

Just wait until his Dad gets the tax bill for his 14 year old's $30k in unreported earnings for 2006. Ahhhh.. the lessons to be learned.

I’d rather waste $250 on

I’d rather waste $250 on him making submissions than the thousands some self promoting SEO charges for ...... never been able to work out what do tbh.

Do people really think SEO

Do people really think SEO is about submission to "search engines and directories" these days? Blimey, we stopped that at the end of 2004.

Be Easy On The Kid:.)

He'll do more work on client sites than some SEO "firms" that charge far more for their services.

Actually if he adds META

Actually if he adds META tags in there, I would almost agree ;)

some do...

Do people really think SEO is about submission to "search engines and directories" these days?

I got a call today from a person who wanted to know about submitting his site to 100,000 search engines...

Wouldn’t using directories

Wouldn’t using directories or not come down to what you’re trying to achieve?
What engines you’re targeting.
Whether its part of a much bigger link building campaign
Whether you’re after top ranking for something competitive or getting your 20k bottom feeding pages indexed.

Whizz Kid's dad's book probably says it all.

Amazing Formulas That Guarantee Advertising Sales(Paperback)
by Mark Smalley

Catty

bunch today eh? ;)

got a call today from a

got a call today from a person who wanted to know about submitting his site to 100,000 search engines...

Well I hope you did the ethical thing Aaron...

...fire up submitw*lf using his main work email :D

...fire up submitw*lf using

...fire up submitw*lf using his main work email :D

also gave him a link to download a free adult gallery...and submitted him where that content was relevant.

He should be getting lots of hits in his inbox ;)

Wouldn’t using directories or not come down to what you’re trying to achieve?
What engines you’re targeting.
Whether its part of a much bigger link building campaign
Whether you’re after top ranking for something competitive or getting your 20k bottom feeding pages indexed.

I still use directories because even if Google thinks many of them are garbage they still can help in Yahoo! and especially MSN.

Although I submit to far fewer since most directories are shit. Many directory owners have spent less than $50 on building a legitimate brand and want to charge that much per listing while selling outbound sitewide viagra and poker links. I think those people are either greedy or assholes or both.

There are legitimate reasons

There are legitimate reasons to submit to directories if you have a strategy that is not based soley on google.

Speak up...

Wich one of us placed that ad? ;)

Cut him some slack

That kid is more motivated than I was at 14 playing Nintendo and trying to find any porn material I could come across. At 14, he probably will give you more effort than half the SEO firms out there. Someone should drop him an e-mail with some links to some of the better sites about SEO and in a year or two he'll be in business.

As a side note what are the

As a side note what are the legal requirements for a business to contract a minor ???

Phenomenal, you're right if

Phenomenal, you're right if the kid really is 14, but to me the ad doesn't sound like a fourteen year old wrote it. As for the legal issues, I think the minor has the right to default, fail to perform, and basically rip you off. (Not to say this kid would; I don't know him.) From what I understand, you pretty much have to trust a minor in order to do business with them.

according to lawyers.com: A

according to lawyers.com:

A minor (usually, a person under 18 years of age) who makes a contract can rescind or void it, with one general exception. A minor contracting for "necessities" is bound to pay for their reasonable value. A "necessity" can be food or shelter but, depending upon the law of the particular state, it may also include a car or other item. A minor who rescinds a contract gets back whatever the other party received from the minor.

i havent seen too many people pretending to be minors as a scam opportunity. it seems like it'd have a much better chance of working than some of the more common tactics like the nigerian banking email.

But

It's a small amount of money to be honest and if he really goes through the trouble to rip you off, then so be it. I mean you can pay a kid down the street to shovel your driveway all winter and he can run off with your money.

I can't imagine it being a scam. I'd think the age would actually be a detriment to him getting business actually considering a business would be worried about hiring a 14 year old.

I can't imagine it being a

I can't imagine it being a scam.

I think most things in this industry are...especially the stuff which is aimed at the low end of the market (although plenty of high end stuff is a scam too).

This kid may do a good job though. Sometimes people work for less than they are worth because they do not know the value they create. I only charged my first customer $100 and he made thousands off it within like a month or so. I have spoke with a number of friends who admit similar underpriced services they delivered (although many won't do it publicly).

Minors get employed all the time

Quite a few people use high school kids for websites even just because they are cheap.

cheap

-but $250 for 200 directory submissions isn't cheap.

(Btw, who's Craig, and what's up with the hippie favicon?)

Exactly my sentiment claus,

Exactly my sentiment claus, $250 is not cheap for this at all. I've seen threads with good reviews on forums where people do this sort of thing for ~50 dollars ( I am going off memory so the price may be off a little ).

who is Craig?

Claus, Craig's List is a huge success story that has taken a ton of classified advertising money out of the newspaper market. He keeps to a philosophy of "for the people" with Craig's List, even though one of his co-founders sold his shares to eBay (giving eBay a 25% interest in the otherwise not-really-commercialized CL).
I'd send you to his wikipedia entry, but it seems he has his fair number of detractors.

Alexa gives CL a traffic rank of 34.

Not just directories

Whether there are 200 directories worth being listed in is probably debatable (I don't think so, myself), but the ad isn't just about directories: "206 targeted search engines and directories."

As far as I'm concerned, anyone who charges for submission to search engines (even one search engine) is no SEO. Either they don't know the difference between an SE and a directory, they don't understand how SEs find sites, or they're trying to rip people off.

Are you suggesting you would

Are you suggesting you would do that for free qwerty ?

Why shouldn't he charge for it. If it takes time and people need help doing it, are too lazy to figure out how to do it, or just don't want to do it then where is the crime in charging for it ?

Anyone Invite Him To Join This Thread?

If memory serves me well, wasn't there a 14 year old AdSense whiz who participated quite intelligently on Digital Point (who couldn't legally sign up for the AdSense program)?

SEO or Not, He is a smart kid

As far back as I can remember people have offered such services / software that will submit your site everywhere. Heck, I've even seen sites promising to submit to over 10,000 search engines and directories which charged by submission volume. So, SEO or not, people buy this service and since there is no official MSRP that you can compare the price to, prices may vary.

Regardless of what you say I think it is a very smart kid (or maybe it is the dad's idea), he found a "vague niche" and it working it. He has no brand to build, he isn't looking for repeat customers, or even rent to pay. With one payment of $250 he can "clean" the icecream man or get some cool games. I wish I had the balls to go to the public at such age and offer my services...

"Are you suggesting you

"Are you suggesting you would do that for free qwerty?"
Hell no. I'm suggesting that the idea of submitting to a search engine (excluding PFI programs) is a sign of someone who either doesn't understand how search engines work, or is counting on his/her clients being ignorant.

If he'd advertised that he'd submit sites to 206 directories, I wouldn't care either way. If I were to submit a site to 206 directories, I would charge quite a bit more than $250, but I don't submit to anywhere close to that number of directories.

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