I find it interesting that

I find it interesting that the #1 ad for text link ads is Adwords. 

I find it interesting that

I find it interesting that the #1 ad for text link ads is Adwords. 

I believe that the Google

I believe that the Google spam team is the red headed step child at Google and rides in the back of the bus most of the time. If the spam team had any real power the the plex you would not have the Adwords team telling webmasters to do exactly the opposite of what the spam team tells you to do in relation to ad placement.

We are far beyond great search results being needed to keep people using Google. Using Google is a conditioned response just as using MS Word or Adobe Acrobat Reader are. It's just what you do.

I am in total agreement Steve

I really think Matt and his team do fight spammers or whatever but their influence in what the algorithm actually does and achieves is negligible. It's Amit and his team of  no lifers (I mean that in nicest possible way) who are under orders from the likes of Larry page and Eric Schmidt who do all the algorithmic heavy lifting. 

It is Schmidt's and Page's job to make sure Google earns cold hard cash. If they didn't they would be quite frankly in a lot of trouble. 

What I don't understand is that more people don't understand this. Google is a corporation and needs to make bigger profits to satisfy shareholders. It isn't an altruistic non profit organization with the betterment of mankind in mind.

I have said this before "Web Search is too important to be a corporate" it really should be a not for profit like wikipedia. it is way to important to be left in the hands of megalomaniacs like Page and Schmidt.

Your red headed step child comment had me laughing :)

I am in total agreement Steve

I really think Matt and his team do fight spammers or whatever but their influence in what the algorithm actually does and achieves is negligible. It's Amit and his team of  no lifers (I mean that in nicest possible way) who are under orders from the likes of Larry page and Eric Schmidt who do all the algorithmic heavy lifting. 

It is Schmidt's and Page's job to make sure Google earns cold hard cash. If they didn't they would be quite frankly in a lot of trouble. 

What I don't understand is that more people don't understand this. Google is a corporation and needs to make bigger profits to satisfy shareholders. It isn't an altruistic non profit organization with the betterment of mankind in mind.

I have said this before "Web Search is too important to be a corporate" it really should be a not for profit like wikipedia. it is way to important to be left in the hands of megalomaniacs like Page and Schmidt.

Your red headed step child comment had me laughing :)

Agreed. If you search

Agreed. If you search "www.text-link-ads.com" you'll see that Google runs an ad for AdWords against them.

Agreed. If you search

Agreed. If you search "www.text-link-ads.com" you'll see that Google runs an ad for AdWords against them.

Exactl right.

Quite frankly many of the big blogs out there started with blackhat and greyhat techniques. Or at least techniques that would now be considered BH or GH. Now their brand signals overwhelm those bad links and Google can't afford to drop them from the index. So yes you should be pushing the boundaries. Here is a good article Ben Cook that explains why SEO's should be pushing Google and if you are not then you are quite frankly a shitty SEO. http://squawk.im/industry-news/seos-should-get-sites-banned/

One source of "too many outbound links" theory

Bill, do you agree with this or disagree? http://www.mymultipleincomes.com/363/google-penalized-my-sites-page-rank-and-how-i-got-it-back/

 

Too Many Outbound Links

Part of my early searching helped me discover that too many outbound links can pose a problem.  You’ve always heard inbound links are a good thing, but outbound links can actually hurt you.  Here is the original Google Page Rank Equation from when Page Rank was first being developed:

PR(A) = (1-d) + d(PR(t1)/C(t1) + … + PR(tn)/C(tn))

Basically, it means the Page Rank of Site A equals the Sum of Each Page Rank of Linking Sites Divided by The Number of Outbound Links on the Site.

 

Theoretically, for an inbound link to a site, it can mean that a PR4 site with only 5 outbound links has the same weight as a PR8 site with 100 links.

 

From this, you can derive your Page Rank.  That is why everyone has always preached “get more backlinks”.  And while that is true, you also lose from having too many outbound links that essentially drain your Page Rank.

One source of "too many outbound links" theory

Bill, do you agree with this or disagree? http://www.mymultipleincomes.com/363/google-penalized-my-sites-page-rank-and-how-i-got-it-back/

 

Too Many Outbound Links

Part of my early searching helped me discover that too many outbound links can pose a problem.  You’ve always heard inbound links are a good thing, but outbound links can actually hurt you.  Here is the original Google Page Rank Equation from when Page Rank was first being developed:

PR(A) = (1-d) + d(PR(t1)/C(t1) + … + PR(tn)/C(tn))

Basically, it means the Page Rank of Site A equals the Sum of Each Page Rank of Linking Sites Divided by The Number of Outbound Links on the Site.

 

Theoretically, for an inbound link to a site, it can mean that a PR4 site with only 5 outbound links has the same weight as a PR8 site with 100 links.

 

From this, you can derive your Page Rank.  That is why everyone has always preached “get more backlinks”.  And while that is true, you also lose from having too many outbound links that essentially drain your Page Rank.