Online Pharmacy - SEO for just $ 300 in just 7 Days

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I nearly pissed my pants when I read this :

Need to be on PAGE 1 of the major search engines, MSN, Yahoo and Google, Topma, for very, very competitive keywords like "phentermine", "phendimetrazine", "online pharmacy" and other keywords. White or Black hat will be considered. Current competition is heavily black hat. Will be a new or unindexed url.

and look at what these top seo's are asking for hehehe

http://www.getafreelancer.com/projects/SEO/Black-White-Hat-SEO-Achieve.html

Front page for phentermine... Hmmmm wonder how much that would make YOU ???

DaveN

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Worth the shot

For these prices I can come up with a list of 100-10,000 keywords...
The average bid as for now is around 1000$ - still *reasonable* :)

and delivered within 7 days

wow. There's nothing more to say.

disgusting...

It's funny how every third listing on there is for a myspace clone, and depressing how Malaysian coders cost $10 an hr. How can you compete with that?

For kicks, check out some of the websites of the "SEO's" that are bidding on this project...

... depressing how Malaysian

... depressing how Malaysian coders cost $10 an hr. How can you compete with that?

My answer to that is.. if you want to outsource by all means. You will very likely get a great product. However if you have problem and they bounce on you or if you find you code on the secondary market can you sue them ?

You can sue me. I live in America, we're famous for that.

Damn, I’ve been

Damn, I’ve been recommending the wrong SEO's, i feel like such a fool, if only i had found these $300 SEO’s sooner :D

lol

i think whats more worrying is the people submitting a quote for just $300, i wonder if they even know what phentermine is?

> depressing how Malaysian

> depressing how Malaysian coders cost $10

Sorry, but wake up and smell the new world! Outsourcing is easier than ever and if you don't learn how to play it, adapt to it and exploit it you will loose!

Budget is per day, right? ;)

Budget is per day, right? ;)

I'm missing this completely......

so if I was that good I would create my own website for these terms and retire to the carribean in , what, 3 weeks time.

are people really that stupid ?

> are people really that

> are people really that stupid ?

YES! :)

Sorry, but wake up and smell

Sorry, but wake up and smell the new world! Outsourcing is easier than ever and if you don't learn how to play it, adapt to it and exploit it you will loose!

I agree of course, but we're based in Russia and outsourcing is our business. However I am surprised at the prices on these freelancer market sites. Contrary to what others might believe, things are not that cheap here. If you're paying peanuts you're still going to get monkeys I'm afraid.

It reminds me of my first trip to India. Sure you can do the student thing and get a room for $2/night but it was bottom of the barrel. If you paid a decent price of $25 (which was still cheaper than standard UK prices) you lived like royalty. The value in outsourcing is in the higher ends of the market, not the lower.

You can sue me. I live in

You can sue me. I live in America, we're famous for that.

I think it's more a case of only working with established reputable companies, irrespective of their location.

As I suggested above, the costs involved to set up and run a company are significant, even in Russia (we have 25 staff). The people who can offer $10/hr are individuals, not companies and generally students. They don't have the experience, the project management or the security that you need for a project.

If you have to sue someone you already made the wrong choice somewhere down that line!

Besides that, as Mikkel suggests, outsourcing is here to stay. You have to work with that. Maybe that means you outsourcing to the UK or EU? (where prices are higher than the US on average). Usually though it means keeping ahead of the game, high quality Web 2.0. design, AJAX, Ruby etc. before it filters to these other markets.

The value in outsourcing

The value in outsourcing is in the higher ends of the market, not the lower.

Good Point - Outsourcing also got management and frustration costs...

Not unaware...

... and certainly not worried -- I speak a few different languagues, so I'll be around for a while yet ;-)

Yep, companies hire the

Yep, companies hire the wrong people all the time. It happens even to the most cautious of customers.

To think ahead and consider what happens if you get screwed is not an error. I always want recourse no matter how much I trust you. People screw each over all the time, many times with out even intending too. To not afford myself protection from that if its available is foolish.

And I am not unaware nor afraid of outsourcing either.

A point perhaps making on

A point perhaps making on outsourcing is *trust*.

I have a UK developer working on my sites at present. I could get the work done at perhaps 25% the price overseas, but factored into the price I'm willing to pay is the fact I know the guy personally, and *trust* him.

Maybe the trust is misplaced - it's a valid argument - but I'd say it's much better placed than providing all my site passwords, etc. to unknown third-parties, simply on the basis of price. Outsourced to the wrong company, the damage could be crippling.

2c.

I'm with Brian

Its much cheaper for me to get it done right the first time with someone thats sitting in the office across from me. I much prefer being able to walk across the hall and work on ideas when they come to me and not have to compose an email.

Sounds like a great deal . . .

front page for phentermine for only $300? I'm all over that!! Now, if only he had something to make my penis bigger.

-q

PS: Can I borrow $300 bucks from someone until this deal I have going with a bank manager in Nigeria goes through?

darn

DaveN discovered on of my freelancer posts. There goes another secret tactic:

Quote:
...Please feel free to open a PM and discuss your talents and techniques.

Hey ...

... if you have enough talent and technique, size wouldn't matter.

lol buckworks

You keep telling your husband that :), but none of us guys believe you.

Budget is per day

> Budget is per day

I was thinking more like per hour ;-)

You can be front page for

You can be front page for nearly anything for 50$ if you know how. And in Google, not the other shite.

BTW to the guys outsourcing from Russia, I am in Eastern Europe and a decent coder here costs me 3$ an hour although I admit they are getting scarce. I can't imagine it costs much more outside Moscow. If you can't turn a profit on 10$ I'd suggest some restructuring.

Please send 4

a decent coder here costs me 3$

Please send 4 coders, 1 DBa, 2 Project managers. (We got FedEx).

Geez, the original company

Geez, the original company doesn't even show up #1 for their long, specific name. Maybe the company could chip in an extra $5 and ask for that, then get the bidders to remove the hidden links on the front page of the original company's site.

Or maybe I should email them?

Please note * This is a "Pay

Please note * This is a "Pay for Performance" project. We have used several reputable SEO companies that were unable to deliver in this competitive field

Playing around at those prices, no wonder they continually get burnt, outsourcing to a cheaper country or not, pay peanuts, get monkeys, and they deserve to lose their money again. They will never learn....

BTW to the guys outsourcing

BTW to the guys outsourcing from Russia, I am in Eastern Europe and a decent coder here costs me 3$ an hour although I admit they are getting scarce. I can't imagine it costs much more outside Moscow. If you can't turn a profit on 10$ I'd suggest some restructuring.

I can't comment on your costs but where I am $10/hr would get you a student working at home or a low end freelancer.

Some things it definitely wouldn't get you are: Planning (wireframes, sitemap, contracts, functional/technical spec), Project Management (meeting deadlines, someone available with fluent English on Skype/MSN/email and telephone), W3C compliant CSS/XHTML markup and Testing. Plus SEO/usability/accessibility input into the project - all working together in an office and available for meetings.

I guess it depends on what kind of work you do but if you package all that for $10/hr - I'm impressed.

I ... Am... Crying...

That is perhaps the most comical RFP / Contest I have ever seen in my life.

And SEO's that have a solid rep wonder why the industry get's a blackeye.

Work

>>I guess it depends on what kind of work you do but if you package all that for $10/hr - I'm impressed.

Our programmers don't work for other people. They build sites for our own bricks and mortar businsess. I was just commenting on the costs. Yes, the 3$ an hour is for a guy sitting in my office on my computers, and project management is obviously extra too. A PM costs about the same and can manage 2 or 3 projects at a time. Office space cost is about 50 cents per hour. That makes a total cost of about 6$ :)

>>Please send 4 coders, 1 DBa, 2 Project managers. (We got FedEx).

No way, I cannot get enough for me :)

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