what is a Google bad link

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I think there are many ways to tell what is a good link and what is a Google bad link

( Remember inline links are not part of this example we can talk later about those :) )

Example: if you have a website about Mobile Phone Reviews sidebar links and footer links.. to Orange, Nextel, a ring tone site, in car charger site, etc etc will most probably carry weight.. they are theme around the sites topic and compliment that sites users.

But for example Payday Loans, Viagra, Mortgages, Hotels In city name .. Well that most probably doesn't .. And really why should they in the SE's eyes.. they are not on topic so why are they there.

Well if you are like me you could argue that a mobile review site could target a certain type of person so buying linkage to trendy hotels.. or other Young peoples sports ... like hand gliding, clubbing, etc would be worth the investment for clicks alone.. maybe even a Viagra link could slip into that clubbing site or dating site

Also newspaper studies have shown, in the case of natural disasters, that people feel bad and have a tendency to make themselves feel better by buying something … like a diamond ring, or when reports show that a local area is much more affluent, adverts for Oxfam and other charities work well …

Anyway lets go back to the SE's POV so you grab a site like wunderground ok it's a weather site, so hotels are ok BUT !! Canada Drugs? or free pixel advertising are not .. So what to do... Maybe brand that site has been not trusted ?, and the sites that brought the links, well which are brought and what has the webmaster placed on there, that’s easy to solve as well .. back link check the sites linking from wunderground and see what other sites link to them as well .. if you can build a big enough picture … you will find

A) a real link
B) a paid link
C) a link network

DaveN

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Topical Weight

I'm just an data guy who likes to play in the SEO field, so take this as you will -- I think what you're saying carries much more weight than people think. I've been playing with light LSA, and it's surprising how much this seems to make a difference in ranking similar sites with generalized IBL properties.

But most of all, the really interesting part I've found is, how easy it is to accurately identify paid links when you analyze topical weight in addition to things like structural and textual format.

yeah right

sure it does

Google Need to Move Away from Links

They need to become less reliant on links. This reliance on link numbers and domain age is going to stiffle their index and by default the web itself.

I have a few sites in the same area so I am fortunate that I can give my new sites good on topic themed links to get them started.
The other side to this is what do you do if you are starting a new site for the first time?

You cannot get links naturally as nobody knows you exist on page120,00
You cannot buy links because you may get banned
You cannot send out link requests because they are spam
You cannot exchange links because they are worthless and may suggest a link farm etc

I recently told a friend not to bother with a website, waste of time and money for him.
What do Google expect people to do in the future?

What ever its all gotten so

What ever its all gotten so silly anymore, I just do what I want. Honestly, if you buy & sell on topic links, for sites that don't meet the google spam guidelines ( I mean the ones they send to the testers), and actually put them in articles you should be fine.

G cannot theme for shite as

G cannot theme for shite as all the trust is in the domain. Once you have that you can blast your way in with anything. How about some blogs in Japan like your english site and they all point a zillion links at your page. Google has to understand japanese and theme it. TBH the question of trust baffels me. If someone can shed some light on using a new .com .net .org and getting trust that is the sort of google links I would be interested in. I noticed this site TW shot out of the ageing delay almost a month after is was launched. Toolbar/alexa data who knows?

Anyway bad links- Do you think G can spot bad links? I think they deal with too many pages to get all but the obvious ones like directories, links pages, dmoz clones ( recent one) and blogspam. If they could theme that would be amazing but then I would go and get some links from some thai websites to confuse them :)

Misdirection

I reckon DaveN is on Google's payroll. What a load of twaddle.

The best way to spot spam links is through linking patterns. Not theme.

>misdirection

I think there has alwasy been a certain degree of SEO misdirection, but it seems to have increased a lot over the last year. If you test the opposite of what you read you'll find a lot of BS articles out there.

It is fun spreading

It is fun spreading disinformation especially sometimes when you see a post somewhere that is too close to the mark on your latest spam magic or something. I saw one on syndk8 the other day and I rubbished it as the jury was out whether it worked or not...phew it is down the bottom of the posts now never to return hopefully.

Actually I do not like DaveN exposing spam and outing sites just to raise his profile ( sorry dave) when we all know what sort of rep he has as a black hat. Honour amongst theives and all that.

G cannot theme for shite as

G cannot theme for shite as all the trust is in the domain. Once you have that you can blast your way in with anything

Forex is a competitive term. Stanford Daily ranked in the top 3-4 at Google for it. ALL of the backlinks to that page were spam. In fact many of the pages now have SEX and CASINO links.

Misdirection

Who's posting with a pantload? I would rather we didn't do that too much here.

DaveN

I don't care what he outs or doesn't but can someone edit his fucking posts before taking them live?!? ;-)

I don't think thats going to happen

seeing as DaveN owns half of threadwatch the only person who could edit his posts is Aaron so I can't see his posts being edited before going live

I have edited Dave a few

I have edited Dave a few times, and would hope he would feel free to edit me a few times if I post hosed up stuff. I think we are both cool that way.

Anyone who would consider mentioning wunderground as outing a site is at least a few yrs behind Google, IMHO. Years ago that site wasn't passing PageRank.

oh well I stand corrected,

oh well I stand corrected, thanks for confirming that Aaron :)

>>Who's posting with a

>>Who's posting with a pantload?

Beg your pardon? What does that mean?

That was a joke about google payroll. Sorry dave :-p

We all know Dave has enough money.

Joke

I was actually referring to his awesome spelling; not his actual post content.

pnatlaod...

>>Who's posting with a pantload?

Beg your pardon? What does that mean?

was trying to goad someone into making a great in depth comment. either you or Dave, but you just spoiled it. :(

awesome spelling

well, most of the time I am 100% in the wrong if I try to tell others how to spell ;)

i am dyslexia

Fuck, now I feel like an asshole. Anywho, I probably get more out of your posts (entertainment and information wise) than just about anyone else. So, however you write 'em keep it up. heh, ;-)

The other side to this is

Quote:
The other side to this is what do you do if you are starting a new site for the first time?

You cannot get links naturally as nobody knows you exist on page 120,00
You cannot buy links because you may get banned
You cannot send out link requests because they are spam
You cannot exchange links because they are worthless and may suggest a link farm etc

If those are the only ways you can think of, yes, you're probably better off never starting a site. McDonald's is always hiring. But how about just doing a little basic website promotion?

basic web promotion

Exactly. There really are almost countless other ways to get links.

You cannot get links naturally as nobody knows you exist on page 120,00

If you would get links if people could find you, then figure out other ways besides search results for people to find you. You'll then likely get links.

The problem, more than anything, is that a lot of Internet marketing types create complete crap sites that people just don't want to link to. So, no matter how you promote it you're not likely going to get any free links. You may get sales though...

about 85% of potential leads

about 85% of potential leads that contact me whine about having little to no marketing budget. about 98% of those sites have nothing useful or interesting about them either.

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